And so I wanted to write a book that, you know, it's going to be--all the terrible things about slavery are gonna be there but in the end you know that your main character is not only gonna survive but is going to thrive.

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It made me think, gosh, it's very hard to be a parent and that - you know, maybe not all of these stories are stories of truly toxic parents.

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"We can all dream - but we know it is going to be a tough afternoon for us, " he said.

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