They say the diet in England is far from perfect - but should be achievable in other UK countries.

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Their certainty rests on something much more visceral than what can be provided by any statistics and admittedly far-from-perfect studies.

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"The estate agency sector in the UK is far from perfect and we know there is still more to be done, " he said.

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No employee is ever going to be perfect and the ones who appear so on paper can be far from ideal.

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The people of Newry realise that the local economy is still far from perfect, and that their new-found prosperity could be threatened by any setbacks to the peace process.

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It's definitely far from perfect, and I'm sure mistakes have been made, but I just try to be clear about that.

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