Mr Hope replied: "It was a hypothetical question" and added that the comment "was not an admission".

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"I hope so, " he replied.

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" Estrada replied: "I hope the people will indeed think I have nothing to do with it.

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"Let's hope they don't, " replied Mr. Smith.

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Mr Hope said he did not believe the statement and, when asked why, replied that Mr Richards was a "bit of a fantasist" who "lives in his own world".

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"I think the foundations that you passingly refer to are actually fairly major and I hope proved to be the things that allowed the subsequent governors to build on, " replied Mr Clifford.

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