But, somehow, I found it difficult to fit synthetic CDOs into my good-guy basket.

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"I was playing with Jamie Abbott, who's a really good guy, an amateur, which reminded me of my amateur days, " he said.

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And hopefully by the end of my administration businesses will look back and say, you know what, actually the guy was pretty good for business -- even if at any given point in the road they may be frustrated.

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He respectfully disagreed with my position on Pernetti, talking about what a great guy he was, how he has done so much good for the school, and how thoroughly he has ingratiated himself to the Rutgers University community.

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