Okay, you're not going to, but can you at least say yea or nay when I kind of try to -- (laughter) -- here's the deal.

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We used to have lots of consultative committees but they were the great and the good who were put on the committees and then at the very last minute without much of a chance of seeing it in advance party members might get a chance to say yea or nay.

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Imagine if someone of Gates' math skills and burning need to win (nay, vanquish his foes) had entered the workforce in, say, 2004.

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