And the irony is, is that Russia -- particularly in the cases of North Korea and Iran -- have worked very well with the international community to isolate those two regimes and to seek a diplomatic solution to hold those two regimes accountable for living up to their international obligations.
The counter view is that sooner or later, though probably later if at all, the two sides will reach exhaustion and will seek a solution, the outlines of which have been apparent for years - land for peace.