In particular, they both get the environmental problem, although they approach it in very different ways.
Instead they focus on sophomoric framing of the controversy as an environmental problem but ignore the larger picture.
And they must be really active in Argentina (despite its nationalized oil companies), where environment ties for dead last among the eight issues, and only 5.9 per cent of the respondents ranked it as the most important environmental problem. (Weirdly enough, it ranks absolute lowest in Israel).
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The market, for profit businesses created to solve a social or environmental problem, are an essential part of the solution.
There is an environmental problem in terms of the food system we have.
Martin Palmer, of the British-based Alliance of Religions and Conservation, says faiths often have the clearest view of the social and economic aspects of an environmental problem.
The third problem is energy policy and its environmental impact.
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The most profound and serious indication of the moral implications underlying the ecological problem is the lack of respect for life evident in many of the patterns of environmental pollution.
For Carol Tokuyo, one of a group meeting under the banner "Youth and Environmental Justice", the culture of consumption and private gain is the root of the problem - the reason why humanity is on an unsustainable track.
It was first developed and launched by UNESCO in 2000 in collaboration with the Secretariat of the United Nations Convention to Combat Desertification (UNCCD) to respond to the need to raise public awareness of this pressing environmental problem.
The researchers say the problem of inactivity has reached pandemic levels, with far-reaching health, economic, environmental and social consequences.
Researchers at the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences and the University of Iowa recently found that bacteria in household dust are a major problem for asthma sufferers.
Sometimes the problem is temporary, the result of an environmental insult like cigarette smoke or chemical fumes.
However, non-greenhouse gas emissions are not a significant problem, as the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency reports emissions of the Six Principal Pollutants have declined to less than a third of 1980 emissions levels.
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The bigger problem: Despite being the cleanest energy available, some environmental groups object to large wind turbines spoiling the landscape, as well as the impact on migrating birds.
"When the government announces these chemicals are unsafe on food they're ... announcing, in effect, that the farm groups and chemical companies who have said there is no problem were wrong, " Ken Cook of the Environmental Working Group told CNN.
It is hard to escape the conclusion that the energy and brains of many of these brilliant hotspot scientists might be put to better use if they looked at the really difficult problem of how governments, private industry and innovative environmental-finance schemes could help fund conservation.
That payment was supposed to resolve any environmental liability the company had, while transferring the responsibility for any remaining problem to Petroecuador.
In my view, injecting this post-consumerist perspective into environmental and energy policy would not address the gravamen of the global warming problem, which is not over-consumption but under-consumption.
The problem is that the Clinton Pentagon actually did produce a comprehensive Environmental Impact Statement for an Alaskan missile defense system albeit one far larger (intended to house up to 100 interceptors) than the modest test facility President Bush proposes to build (involving only 5 interceptor silos).
The problem is that the Clinton Pentagon actually did produce a comprehensive Environmental Impact Statement for an Alaskan missile defense system -- albeit one far larger (intended to house up to 100 interceptors) than the modest test facility President Bush proposes to build (involving only 5 interceptor silos).
One possible new territory where preemption is not a big problem is litigation over environmental debacles. (Witness the recent extraction of money from gasoline refiners who damaged groundwater with a federally approved additive.) The tort mavens also talked about switching to securities law, a field not especially starving for practitioners.
"This is going to be a major problem, " Professor Gordon Hamilton of the Department of Earth and Environmental Studies at the University of Maine told BBC News Online.
There's another little problem with the Omega Protein business model: It has enemies in the environmental sector.
The Environmental Protection Agency's announcement contains the simple assertion that greenhouse gas pollution is a serious problem now and for future generations.
Leland, of the Environmental Defense Fund, said the patchwork of federal agencies managing the oceans in the United States contributes to the problem.
So in March members of the Mississippi River Collaborative, an environmental group, filed a lawsuit designed to force all those involved to think about ways to solve the problem.
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