That soul will not remember the memory as Shelly Kagan.
那灵魂不会记得作为Shelly Kagan的记忆。
Shelly Kagan is a professor of philosophy at Yale University.
Shelly Kagan是耶鲁大学的哲学教授。
Looking at the situation from the outside, we may not be able to say who is the real Shelly Kagan.
从外部看一下这个情形,我们也许无法说出谁才是真的Shelly Kagan 。
If it's a different soul, it's not Shelly Kagan.
如果是不同的灵魂,他就不是谢利·凯根。
Professor Shelly Kagan: Yeah, another great question.
Shelly Kagan教授:是的,又一个非常好的问题。
Shelly Kagan Then of course it's Lefty that is Shelly Kagan.
所以当然小左才是。
Shelly Kagan We could say Lefty is Shelly Kagan and Righty is not.
我们可以说小左是。
Imagine there's somebody in 2050 and we ask, "Is that Shelly Kagan?"
想象一下,2050年又有个人0,我们会问,他是不是谢利·凯根。
As long as this soul is here again on Tuesday, it'll be Shelly Kagan.
只要下星期二出现的是同一个灵魂,他就是谢利·凯根。
Wonderful to be alive. I'm Shelly Kagan Got to get to work. Whatever it is.
活着真好,我是谢利·凯根,要去工作了,诸如此类。
Beginners can watch Yale's philosophy department's course, Death, by Shelly Kagan.
初学者可以先听一听耶鲁大学哲学院的课程,比如谢利•凯根教授的课程《死亡》。
Shelly Kagan So the only alternative seems to be to say that neither of us is Shelly Kagan.
所以唯一的选择是说我们都不是。
Because according to that theory, having the personality is what it took to be Shelly Kagan.
因为根据那个理论,拥有Shelly,Kagan的人格就是作为他存在的证据。
I have to say that Shelly Kagan is probably the best lecturer I had in my four years at Yale.
我不得不说薛立·卡刚很可能是,我在耶鲁四年所遇到的最好的演讲者。
If this one's being tortured, nobody's thinking to himself, Oh, I'm Shelly Kagan in horrible pain.
如果这个人被折磨,没有人会想,我是Shelly,Kagan,我好痛。
Shelly Kagan The guy last time thought he was Shelly Kagan, believed he was professor of philosophy.
上次讲课的家伙认为他是,相信他是哲学教授。
So if this were to happen to him he wouldn't be Shelly Kagan the person who'd been lecturing last week.
所以如果这件事发生在他身上,他不会成为谢利·凯根,上星期给你们上课的人。
Shelly Kagan But if neither of us is Shelly Kagan, then the simple original personality theory was false.
但如果我们都不是,那最初的人格理论就会被证明是错误的。
And if you imagine Kagan not existing, then you're imagining that single thing, Shelly Kagan, not existing.
如果你想像卡根不存在,那么你也就是在想象那个唯一的东西,薛立·卡根不存在。
And so if you've imagined Shelly existing then of course you're imagining that single thing, Shelly Kagan, existing.
所以如果想象了薛立存在,那么当然你也就想象了那一个东西,薛立·卡根存在。
Professor Shelly Kagan: the first question we want to discuss has to do with the possibility of my surviving my death.
Shelly Kagan教授:第一个我们将会讨论的问题是我幸存于我的死亡的可能性。
But equally true, and more surprisingly, from the personality theory point of view, there's no reason to say that I'm Shelly Kagan and he's not.
但同样真实,并更让人惊讶的是,从人格理论的角度来看,也没理由说我是Shelly,Kagan而他不是。
What makes it true that the person lecturing to you next Tuesday is Shelly Kagan, the very same person, what makes that true is that it's the very same soul.
那个下星期二给你讲课的,还是谢利·凯根,和现在是同一个人,所需要的条件是,有同一个灵魂。
Shelly Kagan whether I, this person talking to you right now, is Shelly Kagan depends on whether there's some duplicate with all my memories in Michigan or not?
现在和你们讲话的人是不是,取决于是否在密歇根有没有一个,带有我的记忆的复制品存在?
What the mad scientist did, in effect was wipe out the hard drive, put in the other programs from the Shelly Kagan computer, but it's still the very same computer.
疯狂科学家所做的实际上是,清理硬盘,输入来自Shelly,Kagan电脑的其他程序,但电脑还是那台电脑。
Once there was a story on grade inflation that the Yale Daily News began by saying, "as Shelly Kagan So I know I've got at least the reputation of being a hard grader."
一旦有关于成绩膨胀的故事,耶鲁日间新闻会从下面这句话开始“,薛立·卡刚,这至少让我知道了,我有严厉这么个名声。”
So you can't even imagine a world in which Shelly exists but Kagan doesn't.
所以你甚至无法想象在一个世界里,薛立存在而卡根不存在。
Imagine a world in which Kagan exists, but Shelly doesn't exist, because nobody in the world is named Shelly.
想象在一个世界里卡根存在,而薛立不存在,因为这个世界里面没人叫薛立。
And that you can't do, because in the real world of course Shelly and Kagan pick out just two different names of this very same thing.
你不可能做到,因为在现实世界里,薛立和卡根指的是,同一个东西的两个不同名字。
Look. Suppose we try to imagine a world in which Shelly exists but Kagan doesn't.
设想在某个世界里面,薛立存在而卡根不存在。
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