A lot of Freudians have tried and made a research program of extending their ideas scientifically, bringing them to robust scientific tests.
许多精神分析的支持者们,都试图建立研究项目,来科学地扩展他们的理论观点,使得这些理论观点得到了大量的科学研究。
And there are some philosophers and psychologists who do just that, who claim that free will and responsibility and spiritual value and intrinsic value are all illusions; they're pre-scientific notions that get washed away in modern science or you could try to reconcile them.
一些哲学家和心理学家便是如此,他们认为,自由意志,责任,精神价值,内在价值,这些都是幻象,都是些前科学的概念,应当从现代科学中清洗出去,或者你可以试着将二者调和
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