But I would say - I would agree with you - but I would add that for me, good religion and good art - I like this idea -- are as real as life itself.

我同意你的观点，但我还想加一点,对我来说，好的宗教和好的艺术,应该和生活一样真实，我喜欢这个理念。

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I think of nineteenth-century art as being horizontal and stretched out like agricultural life in New England.

我觉得19世纪的艺术应该是,水平的，就像新英格兰伸展开来的农业。

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