I think we have to use the same techniques that we used effectively against the Mafia here in the United States where you attack these organizations at all levels,"

VOA: standard.2009.10.22

"And I think the same way you get credit for a lot of the good things that happen, sometimes you have to take the heat for things that go wrong, even though you were not personally responsible in any of the wrong doing."

VOA: standard.2010.04.21