And they kind of looked at me, 'What are you talking about?'

VOA: standard.2010.06.25

"It depends on what you are talking about. If you are talking about some money that bleeds around the edges to get a road paved, but you get the road paved, you get it paved on time, you get it paved to the quality it is supposed to be, frankly it is a nuisance,"

VOA: standard.2009.11.17