He says, "I believe in the practice and philosophy of what we have agreed to call magic, in what I must call the evocation of spirits, though I do not know what they are."

他说我相信我们所称作的,关于魔法的实践和哲学，我认为那是对灵魂的召唤，尽管我并不知道它们是什么“

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Both he and Thrasymachus believe that justice is a virtue, : but Socrates says, "What kind of virtue is it "? to deceive and fleece other people?"

他和，Thrasymachus，都相信,正义是美德，但苏格拉底说，“欺骗与剥削他人,算哪门子美德“

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