And so, Descartes' attempt to establish the distinctness of the mind, the immateriality of the mind, on the basis of this Cartesian thought experiment, I think that's unsuccessful.

所以,笛卡尔试图,用他的卡式思想实验来证明,心灵的独立存在性,和非物质性,我认为这种尝试是失败的

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If that argument, if the argument-- If trying to run the Cartesian argument for astronomy fails, yet it seems to be an exactly analogous argument, we ought to conclude that the argument for the distinctness of the mind and the body must fail as well.

如果这个论证,如果把卡氏论证运用到天文学,是失败的,看来我们也不得不承认,类似的那个证明心灵,和身体不同的那个论证,必然也是失败的

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