There is a little anecdote from that teach-in that I want to share with you that I think embodies some of the tensions in this novel.

关于那次讨论会我觉得没有什么好说的,能够体现出小说中的焦虑。

耶鲁公开课 - 1945年后的美国小说课程节选

Well, I guess it's the problem that people who teach the eighteenth-century novel always have, or the Victorian novel: the Victorian novel like the triple-decker, the three-volume novel.

好吧，我猜这个问题是,讲授十八世纪小说,或维多利亚时期小说的人经常遇到的：,像维多利亚时期的三层小说，三卷本小说。

耶鲁公开课 - 1945年后的美国小说课程节选

Now the part about his life in Chicago was I'm going to keep doing this, call it the novel versus the autobiography, and I'll explain why I make that mistake a little later--it was cut from the autobiography.

他在芝加哥的生活那部分,我会一直把这书叫做小说，而不是自传,我之后会解释为什么犯这样的错误,这书是从自传的一部分。

耶鲁公开课 - 1945年后的美国小说课程节选