Now we're going to play just a little bit of pop music-- Not too laud cause this really hipped up.

现在我们将放一段流行音乐,不要放得太响

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So without giving away my age too much-- I guess it will actually--when I was a kid growing up in England, there was this guy - there was a pop star-- a slightly post-punk pop star called Joe Jackson, who none of you would have heard of, because you were all about ten years old, my fault.

虽然我不想透露我的年龄,但也没办法,我从小在英格兰长大,当时有一个流行歌手,他叫乔?杰克森,后朋克歌手,我估计你们都没听说,因为他红的时候你们才十多岁

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