"I believe on the state side there has been underfunding and under-recognition of the importance and need for funding public defense for the indigent for a long time,".

VOA: standard.2009.05.22

And he argues that indigent citizens, who are unable to provide for themselves, should not be forced to rely simply upon the private charity of individuals but should be maintained at public expense.

对于那些因贫困而无法养活自己的人，他却认为不能让他们，完全依靠私人的慈善救济过活,而应当用国家公共支出,建立相应的保障来维持他们的生活。

耶鲁公开课 - 政治哲学导论课程节选