I was the Deputy Chief of Staff at that time, but because the president was travelling in Anticard.

当时我是办公厅副主任,但是当时总统,在外访问。

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before that he was the Deputy White House Chief of Staff, and Joshua is also, I'm proud to say, a proud alumus of Princeton University, Class of 1976.

在那之前,他是白宫办公厅副主任，而且我非常自豪地向大家介绍，约书亚是普林斯顿大学，1976级的优秀毕业生。

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