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But that formula forces us to return to the original Socratic question about the harmony of the soul and the city.
但那个公式迫使我们回到,原始的苏格拉底式问题,即有关灵魂与城市的和谐。
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The platonic idea of justice concerns harmony, he tells us, both harmony in the city and harmony in the soul.
柏拉图式的正义观是关于和谐，他说到，那是关于城市的和谐与灵魂的和谐。
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He says that people who put forward views like this and at any rate harmony can certainly be destroyed.
他说提出有人,提出类似这种观点,和声当然可以毁灭。
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He's sort of an innocent primitive, he appears unclothed he lives a free, peaceful life in harmony with the animals, with nature and the beasts, he races across the steppes with the gazelles.
他是一个未开化的野人，出现时身无寸缕,生活随性，和动物与自然和平相处,有时候甚至和羚羊赛跑，穿过草原。
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The first three or four weeks or so we'll be following the elements of music: rhythm, melody and harmony-- and then a test.
开始的三或四周,我们会逐个介绍,音乐中的元素,节奏,旋律,和声,然后有一个考试
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He created finally--he emigrated to the United States and he set up a city called New Harmony.
而他确实这么做了，他移居到美国,并创建了一个名叫新和谐村的公社。
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All that Simmias needs to cause problems for Socrates' argument is the claim that harmony is invisible and harmony can be destroyed.
西米亚斯为苏格拉底的论证,带来问题的只需要是,和声是无形的,但是可以毁灭。
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Now noticed if that's the way we interpret his argument, harmony works no longer as a counterexample.
注意到如果这是,我们解读他论点的方式，和声就不再一个反例了。
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So the crucial point right now is that, thinking about harmony is offered as a counterexample to the generalization that invisible things can't be destroyed.
所以现在的重要问题是，和声的例子现在作为,灵魂不可毁灭,这一概括说法的反例。
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Why,when dealing with harmony and bass lines, do I want to start by focusing on popular music and then apply those principles to classical music?
为什么在处理和音和低音线时，我是否需要注重流行音乐然后将这些原则应用到古典乐上？
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This raises the question whether it is possible to transform politics to replace enmity and factional conflict with friendship to replace conflict with harmony?
这就产生了一个问题,是否有可能转变政治，以友谊,取代敌对与派系冲突,以和谐取代冲突？
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New Harmony was supposed to be an inspiration.
新和谐村本该大振人心。
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Even if we were to say you know what, the mind is not much like harmony at all.
即使我们说，知道么，精神和和声一点也不一样。
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Harmony is indeed invisible in sense Number 1, you cannot see it with your eyes, but for all that, it can be destroyed.
和声用无形的第一种解读方式理解，确实是无形的，你看不见它，但是它可以毁灭。
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Is this metaphor, think about the relationship between the mind and the body as similar to the relationship between harmony and a harp.
思考思想和身体的关系,是否和这个比喻里,和声和竖琴的关系相同。
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Socrates instead spends some time worrying about the question: is the soul really like harmony or not?
取而代之的是花时间,研究一个问题：,即灵魂是不是真的像和声一样？
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it's dependent just the same way that well, for example, harmony is denpendent upon the physical instrument.
依赖的方式同,举个例子,和声依赖物质的乐器是一个道理。
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We want to figure out if the harmony is changing, and if it is changing whether it's changing at a regular or irregular rate.
一是判断和声是否发生了变化，二是如果发生了变化，和声的变化频率是规则还是不规则的。
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So the harmony analogy is I think an attempt, and not a bad attempt, at gesturing towards the question how do physicalists think about the mind.
所以我认为和声的类比是个尝试，而且是不错的尝试,尝试解读物理学家如何思考精神。
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