But what the Greeks spent most of their time doing was fighting each other, one hoplite phalanx against another hoplite phalanx.
但是希腊人在大部分时间里都是方阵对抗,一个步兵方阵和另外一个步兵方阵对垒
For the Greeks,on the other hand as I've said, political society was essential for living any kind of a good life.
对于希腊人,就像我说的另外一方面,对他们而言,政治社会,是人们获得幸福生活的关键
But there's one thing that the Romans made even more of, than the Greeks had made of, and this is the patron-client structure.
但有一样东西罗马人比希腊人,做得更极致,即庇护关系。
After the Greeks laid out their fifths and fourths and whole steps, they had these little leftovers.
当希腊人安排好,五度音程,四度音程和全音级后,他们还有一些剩余
How would you have had the great Greek playwrights, they would argue, without the system, the world the Greeks were able to create with the Helots?
还有伟大的古希腊戏剧家是怎样来的,没有这个制度,希腊人怎能用奴隶创造昔日的繁荣
So, this will be significant as we talk about how the Greeks differed from them, which gets us to the Greeks.
而希腊与这些的区别将是我们讨论的重点,让我们回到希腊的话题上
We know that the first colony that the Greeks established was in the Bay of Naples on the island of Ischia.
我们知道希腊建立的第一个殖民地,是在那不勒斯湾的伊斯基亚岛
The Greeks were, even though they went to sea plenty, they were terrified of the sea for very good reason.
那时的古希腊人,虽然时常出海,但他们也是非常惧怕大海的
That's very different from the Greeks, very different from other people in the Ancient Mediterranean.
这与希腊人非常不同,与其他古代地中海地区也不同。
now, this is a remarkable leap, even beyond the humanism of the greeks, something brand new in the world.
这是一个历史性的飞跃,甚至超越了古希腊的人道主义,当时,这是一种先锋思想
At the core of it is a belief in progress, something that was essentially not present among the Greeks.
其核心就是对于进步的信仰,实质上说这在希腊文化中是不存在的
Well, the Greeks had no concept of natural rights, or of rights that human beings were given by the gods.
当然,古希腊人没有自然权利,或者天赋人权的概念
They say, "Yeah, yeah the Greeks were terrific, they achieved wonderful things, they were a miracle, the golden age, and all that.
他们会说,是的,希腊人很了不起,他们实现了很多美好的事物,他们是个奇迹,那是个黄金时代,诸如此类
We're talking about a culture when we're talking about the Greeks, which is most strikingly signified by the language that is spoken.
当我们谈论希腊人时我们是谈论希腊文化,是严格以所使用的语言为主要标志的
The Greeks would have thought you were out of your mind, or that you were some kind of barbarian, but that's okay.
希腊人会认为你疯了,或者将你视为野蛮人,那也无所谓
Now, the Greeks were very much concerned individuals and this is especially true of the democrats in Athens.
虽然希腊人很关注个人,这在雅典的民主人士中非常明显
The Greeks, in Homer's world, seem to regard one just about as well as they do the other.
荷马时期的希腊人,似乎和看重其他品质一样,看重这个品质
That's a very strange thing because the Greeks turn out to be an enormously active seafaring people with tremendous fear of the seas.
但奇怪的是,希腊人,虽然对海洋有着极度的恐惧,但同时,他们又是一个活跃于海上的民族
However, there's this great question of how far do the Greeks pursue in a hoplite battle?
但是,这里又有一个问题,希腊人在方阵战中会从战场追出多远呢
The Greeks, however, combined a unique sense of mankind's high place in the natural order.
然而,希腊人,将人放在自然法则中的,至高地位,他们结合这一独特观念
So, they are,of course, sort of prehistoric monsters as far as the Greeks are concerned.
因此对希腊人而言,他们就是一群史前怪物
In Alexandria, the local Egyptian population resented the Jews because they were recognized as a legal ethnicity in Alexandria, and they weren't given complete privileges of the Greeks in-- Alexandria was a Greek city.
比如在亚历山大港,当地埃及人仇视犹太人,因为他们在当地是合法少数民族,而埃及人却没有任何希腊特权。。。,亚历山大港是希腊式城市。
They ran against something that was regarded with much more hostility by the Greeks.
他们和一些,更为希腊人所反感的对手竞争
The reason for that was that in the east and in south, the Greeks lived among people who were more civilized than they, who were more advanced.
究其原因,在东方和南方,希腊人生活在比他们更文明,更先进的民族中间
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