So in retrospect, I think the way to deal with crisis, deal with challenge, deal with difficult times, is like this: First, you need to be realistic.

回首去年，我们应对危机，面对挑战时，所采取的方法就是：,首先，要变得现实一些。

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These are not meant to be realistic, but they'll give you the idea.

它们并不一定非常实际，但是它们会让你了解这种观点。

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So it wouldn't be realistic that Muslims, you know, going to claim Vatican, for instance.

所以如果让穆斯林人，宣布占领梵蒂冈，那就不现实了。

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So they and I would both talk to people who think: "No, we should be realistic.

所以我和他们都会试图说服这样一些人，这些人认为：,不，我们要现实。

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