But there is a second sense for him and, in some ways, a more important sense in which he says the polis is by nature.

但他还有另一种说法,且就某种程度看来是更重要的说法,他说城邦就是自然演变。

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We didn't anticipate, at that time, what's happening now, which is, you're seeing value get stripped out of the client and into the server, which makes it even more important to be in the cloud, so to speak.

我们那个时候没有预计到现在的情况，也就是说，现在,客户端的价值向服务器转移，所以拥有云技术,就更加重要了。

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