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Couldn't that be a kind of existence that would be forever enjoyable and yet it wouldn't be a rat-like existence?
那样的存在难道不是让人永远享受的,而且并非老鼠般的存在？
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Well, you might say surely there could be creatures that would want to live forever, that would enjoy an eternal existence.
你们也许会说一定存在某种生物,会希望永远活下去，会享受一种永恒的存在。
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Otherwise the test is always going to be true, we're going to go off here, but this would loop forever if I did that.
否则测试结果就会一直为真，我们需要离开这个测试，否则就会一直执行循环。
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If he went to Troy, he would die, but his memory as the greatest of the Achaeans would be immortal forever. Well, you know the choice he took and you know that it turned out to be right.
如果他去了特洛伊,他可能会战死,但他将被作为最伟大的雅典人受万世颂扬,而获得永存,你们知道了他的选择,也知道最终这个选择被证明是正确的
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If you had a perpetuity, which paid C/2 forever, you already know from the perpetuity formula that the value of that would be C/2 divided by r/2 if r/2 is the discount rate.
如果你有一只永续债券,每半年付息C/2,没有到期日,从永续债券的公式可以知道,债券价格等于C/2除以r/2,r/2为贴现率
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Is there any way to imagine existing forever ? where that would be good for you,forever?
有没有想象永远存在的办法,永生对于你来说是好事吗？
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When I do my best to imagine some kind of existence that would be desirable or attractive forever, it just doesn't work. It becomes a nightmare.
当我尽力想象一种,令人永远期望迷恋的存在时，根本想象不出，总是变成恶梦。
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Maybe that would be desirable forever.
也许那是值得永久期许的。
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You've got to imagine changing some of the facts about what it would be like to live forever So instead of asking the question ? the question I started with,would it be good to live forever?
你得想象改变一些,关于永生后果的事实,所以不问我开始时的问题,我们不问永生是好事吗？
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We've been talking about the question as to whether or not it would be desirable to live forever, whether immortality would actually be a good thing, as most of normally presume, or whether in fact, as Bernard Williams argues, it would be undesirable.
我们探讨的问题是,是否该有永生的渴望，永生是否像一般假想那样，是件好东西，或者其实，如Bernard，Williams所言，是不该期许之物。
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