Thorn confidently proclaimed that arguments and debates comparing Clemens to Walter Johnson, Cy Young and Lefty Grove was not necessary.

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Lefty Grove (1931), Bucky Walters (1939), Hal Newhouser (1945), and Sandy Koufax (1963) each achieved this spectacular accomplishment under the watchful eyes of the B.

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You're still left with 298 points--a big drop from 529 but still enough to place Clemens at No. 12 on the all-time list, right behind Lefty Grove and Phil Niekro.

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