Even more disappointingly, it was run by a giant and orderly bureaucracy, in which spirits had to ask permission and list their motives if they wished to contact mediums and had to stand in line, waiting for a clerk to find suitable parents, in order tobebornagain.
Those arguing for Northern Rock tobe returned to the mutual sector as a born-again building society - and there are many of those in Parliament, from all parties - will feel their case is reinforced by today's results from the biggest building society, Nationwide.
But rather than bask in their successful start to the season the modest Trinidad-born Ince is merely happy tobe playing again after a difficult time at Coventry.