So historically for example, in World War II with the Brisbane line we saw that places like Townsville and Cairns, Darwin and Perth were essentially secondary defense areas, "he said."

以历史为例，二次大战时，我们以布里斯班为一条线，把汤斯维尔、凯恩斯、达尔文和伯斯基本上看作是二级防卫区。

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