Their format is unlively, with little cut-and-thrust allowed among the men on the platform.

ECONOMIST: Mr Heavy and Mr Light

British politicians are much more accustomed to the cut and thrust of face-to-face debate.

ECONOMIST: TV debates

It seems that sitting in our pajamas all day does not always trump the cut and thrust of face-to-face office work.

FORBES: The Power of Place

There was a pleasing cut and thrust developing in the game, with Ramsey and Sam Ricketts - catching the eye with a dashing display from right wing-back - looking particularly dangerous for Wales.

BBC: Wales 1-3 Russia