Next the thinker must define the problem.
下一步思考者必须确定问题。
Now, how to free the thinker from his thoughts?
现在，如何将思考者从思考中解脱出来？
Why does the thinker separate himself from his thought?
为什么思想者要将他自己与他的思想分开呢？
The visible _I_ in nowise authorizes the thinker to deny the latent _I_.
有形的我绝不允许思想家否认无形的我。
Is the thinker of one thought different from the thinker of another thought?
一个念头的思考者和另一个念头的思考者不同吗？
So, what is the thinker to do?
因此，思考者该做些什么？
思想家的位置！
So, can the thinker cease to think?
因此，思考者是否能停止思考？
Does the thinker exist without thoughts?
是否有不存在思考的思考者？
Stop thinking, and where is the thinker?
停止思考，思考者在哪里？
Is the thinker different from his thought?
思想者不同于他的思想吗？
Question: Is the mind different from the thinker?
问：心意和思考者不同吗？
Krishnamurti: How does the thinker come into being?
克：思考者是怎么形成的？
Audience: How does the "I", the thinker, come into being?
听众：思考者、“我”是怎么形成的？
That's absorption when the thinker and the thought become one.
专注能让思考者与念头合二为一。
Are not the thinker and his thought an inseparable phenomenon?
思想者和它的思想是不可分割的现象，不是吗？
The whole thought process, which includes the thinker, has to come to an end.
整个思想过程，包括思想者，必须终止。
When such integration takes place there is complete transformation of the thinker.
当这样的融合发生的时候，思想者就完全转化了。
When the thinker and his thought become inseparable then only is duality transcended.
思想者不和他的思想分开时，二元才能被超越。
For the same reason as the thinker, the artist commits himself and becomes himself in his work.
出于与思想家同样的原因，艺术家在作品中投入了自我并成就了自我。
The moment you start watching the thinker, a higher level of consciousness becomes activated.
当你开始观察这个思想者的那一刻，一个高一层次的意识已经被启动了。
This inseparable unity of the thinker and his thought is to be experienced but not to be speculated upon.
这种思想者和思想不可分割的整体是被体验到的，而不是靠推测出来的。
Krishnamurti: I say the thinker is not there. There is only the action, the thought, and then the thinker comes in.
克：我说思想者不存在。只有行动、思想，然后出现了思想者。
Audience: You said that, positively or negatively, any action on the part of the thinker is a projection of the thinker.
听众：你说，不论是积极的或消极的，思考者自身的任何行为都折射了思考者。
He is ever seeking security, permanency, and as thoughts are impermanent the thinker thinks of himself as the permanent.
他一直在寻找安全、永恒，而因为思想是不固定的，思想者就认为他自身是永恒的。
Krishnamurti: If all thoughts were to cease, the thinker would not be there. Therefore, the thoughts produce the thinker.
克：如果所有的思想停止，思想者就不存在了。因此思想创造了思想者。
In the dark era, the poet and the thinker think of the truth of Being in the forgotten state of Being when they poetically sing.
在黑暗的时代，诗人和思想家在诗意的吟唱中从“存在之遗忘状态”思入存在之真理。
Now, if the experiencer and the experience are a joint phenomenon, which is so obvious, then the experiencer, the actor, the thinker, has to stop thinking.
现在，如果经历者和经历是一个相伴的现象，而这是显然的，那么经历者、行动者、思想者必须停止思想。
It will suffice to bring to light a few themes common to the creator and the thinker in order to find in the work of art all the contradictions of thought involved in the absurd.
我们只要揭示创造者和思想家的一些共同之处，便足以发现艺术作品中所有涉及荒谬的思想矛盾。
As long as the thinker is concerned only with the modification of his thoughts and not with the fundamental transformation of himself, so long conflict and sorrow will continue.
只要思想者只关心改变他的思想而不关心他自身根本的转变，那么冲突和悲伤就会一直继续。
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