.. You might say, optimists are those-- now in this more chastened version of optimism, optimists say, "Even if immortality would be bad eventually after a million years or ten million years or what have you, " the next chunk of life would've been good for all of us."

可以说，乐观主义者是那些-,对于比较保守的乐观主义者，他们会说，“就算一百万年或一千万年之后“,”永生最终是件坏事，但是“,'现在往后的一大段生活对所有人都是美好的“

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