Thats a really big deal. Without it, anything like the modern stock market, I'd say,is impossible."

VOA: special.2010.03.05

Here is a reading of his description of his first sight of the bats and the big cave: "I thought it was a volcano, but then,I'd never seen a volcano nor never before had I seen bats swarm, for that matter.

VOA: special.2009.12.07