"That will involve keeping countries happy with the division of labor as regards carbon trading, as regards how much they want to hold back their own industrial development, even though they say particularly many of the EU's new countries that they were poor for a long time, no different than the Chinese, that they have a right to develop their economy, that it is the rich countries in Europe that are more responsible for climate change than they are and they should get special treatment in any kind of EU position."

VOA: standard.2009.10.29

But in many regards, it is a matter of space, a matter of supplies, a matter of security where issues come out which don't really matter whether you believe in religion or not.

但是就各种方面来说，是关乎空间，关乎资源供应，关乎安全,这些问题并不一定和你,是否有宗教信仰有关。

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But in many regards, it is a matter of space, a matter of supplies, a matter of security where issues come out which don't really matter whether you believe in religion or not.

但是就各种方面来说，是关乎空间，关乎资源供应，关乎安全,这些问题并不一定和你,是否有宗教信仰有关。

普林斯顿公开课 - 人性课程节选