And so, in certain contexts, I'm perfectly comfortable--in my physicalist moods, I am perfectly comfortable--talking about this person's soul.
而且,在某些情况下,依照我这个物理主义者的心情,我感到很惬意,探讨人的灵魂,我也感到很惬意
Now,what I've been arguing is that,logically speaking, even if you are a physicalist, that doesn't rule out the possibility of survival.
我现在要说的就是,逻辑上讲,即便你是物理主义者,也无法排除生存的可能性。
Is there some feature that the physicalist can't explain and so we need to appeal to something extra-physical to explain it?
是否存在物理主义者不能解释的这种特性,使得我们不得不诉诸于,某些超物理的东西来解释
As physicalist we can still say that the bases of personality is that there're bodies, there're functioning in certain ways.
作为物理主义学者我们认为,人格的基础还是肉体的存在,肉体的存在有很多个性。
I'm defending, I'm defending the physicalist by saying, "Don't blame us. We don't know how to explain it yet."
说我在辩护,当我给物理主义者辩护时我会说,别怪我们,我们还不知道怎么解释呢
So these are the two basic positions: the dualist view on the one hand, the physicalist view on the other.
以上就是两种基本的理论,一种是二元论的观点,另一种是物理主义的观点
In response, the physicalist is going to say, "Yes it's true that bodies don't just move around in random patterns."
然而,物理主义会回击道,对,肉体的确,不仅仅是在做无规则运动
So it's important, in particular, to understand that from the physicalist's point of view, the mind is not the brain.
因此,从物理主义的,角度理解这一点尤为重要,心灵并不是大脑
Turn now to the second basic view, the physicalist view, according to which a person is just a body.
现在我们转而讨论第二个基本观念,物理主义观,核心思想是人只是个肉体
So we need to revise our account of what it is on the physicalist picture to say that you're dead.
我们应该重新修改一下,物理主义学上对死亡的定义。
There's nothing upsetting or improper about the language of the soul, even on the physicalist point of view.
谈论灵魂并不是什么令人沮丧或不得体的事情,即使是从物理主义的角度来看
And when I review these various arguments, I come away thinking the better explanation falls with the physicalist.
所以当我考察各种论证时,我不会说最佳解释肯定是,物理主义的
Each one of us, according to the physicalist, is just a body that can do some amazing things.
我们每一个人,按照物理主义的观点,就是能干出某些令人惊叹事情的实体
Death is basically just the breaking down of the body, on the physicalist point of view, so that it no longer functions properly.
死亡从根本上说就是我们肉体的损坏,在物理主义看来,肉体再也不能正常工作了
But not yet seeing how to explain it is not the same thing as seeing that it can't be explained on physicalist terms.
但是不知道,怎么解释并不等于,不能用物理主义解释
And of course, the physicalist's suggestion is there isn't anything on the other side of the wall.
物理主义者的看法就是,墙的另一边什么也没有
It would be one thing, if we could see that no conceivable physicalist explanation could possibly work.
我们能看出,所有物理主义的解释都行不通
So that might tempt you into saying the mind on the physicalist view is just a brain.
这可能会让你觉得心灵,在物理主义那里就是大脑
I'm not the kind of person who makes it his business to try to explain away those things in physicalist, naturalistic, materialistic, scientific terms.
我不是那种,喜欢用物理主义,自然主义,唯物主义的科学角度,来解释东西的人
Are there mysteries or puzzles about people that the physicalist just draws a blank, but if we become dualists, we can explain these features?
是否存在某些人类的奥秘或谜团,物理主义对此束手无策,而二元论者,却能解释它们
But there's nothing mysterious about death from the physicalist point of view, at least about the basic idea of what's going on in death.
但是死亡没有什么神秘可言,从物理主义的角度来看,至少死亡的基本定义是不神秘的
The question we want to turn to, then, is, "Which of these two views should we believe: the dualist position or the physicalist position?"
接下来,我们的问题是,这两种观点,我们到底应该相信哪一种,二元论还是物理主义
So that's something there're physicalist can say and for that matter, there is something that a soul--somebody believes in souls could say as well.
物理主义学者可以这么认为,甚至相信灵魂论的,那些人,也可以这么认为。
When I try to get you to grasp how physicalist think about the mind, I use examples about computers and robots and the like.
当我试图让你们理解,物理学家怎样思考精神,我用了电脑,和机器人的例子。
Mind you, I don't want to deny that there are some things the physicalist has not yet done a very compelling job of explaining.
注意,我并不否认,物理主义者在某些方面,做出的某些解释不充分
So I think it's a very nice attempt to discuss the physicalist alternative to Plato's dualism.
因此我认为这是个好的尝试,讨论与二元论不同的观点。
There's nothing mysterious from the physicalist perspective about the idea that a physical object can break.
对于物理主义来说,物体会损坏是微不足道的
In contrast to that, we've got the physicalist view, according to which there are just bodies.
与之相对的,是物理主义的观点,认为人只有肉体
It's not as though the physicalist view is, "We're bodies that have some illusion of thinking."
物理主义并不是说,我们是有思维幻觉的肉体
Talk about the mind, says the physicalist, is just a way of talking about the body.
物理学家说谈论精神,是谈论肉体的一种方式。
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