But half-a-world away, ordinary Afghans have their own advice for the U.S.president.

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Of course, the problem is, we're distracted by the comings and goings, the hurly burly of the ordinary everyday world.

但问题在于,在这个普通寻常的世界上,来往喧嚣吸引了我们的注意力

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Ordinary material objects of this world can partake of the various Platonic forms, but they should not be confused with the Platonic forms.

现实世界的普通物体,能够分有各种各样的型相,但不能把它们同型相混为一谈

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Ordinary objects in the world participate to a greater or lesser degree in the Platonic forms.

这个世界的普通的事物,在柏拉图型相中会处于或高或低的层次

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You recall the basic idea was that although objects in the ordinary, familiar and empirical world are not perfectly just, perfectly round, what have you, they are able to remind us of perfect justice, perfect roundness and the like.

回忆一下基本的观点是,尽管在这个,普通的熟悉的已知的世界里,物体并不是完全合理的，圆满的，但他们的存在可以提醒我们,完全的合理，圆满等等。

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And the reason for positing these things is because we're clearly able to think about these ideas, and yet, we recognize that the ordinary physical world-- although things may participate in them to varying degrees-- we don't actually come across these objects or entities in the physical world.

我们假定这些的原因是,这样我们就能够清楚的,去思考这些理念,目前我们认识到在正常的现实世界中,尽管很多东西或多或少的参与其中,我们并不会在现实世界中,直接面对这些对象或者个体

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