Plato wrote the dialogues as a kind of learning device, as a tool to help the reader get better at doing philosophy.

柏拉图写下这些对话录,是为了将其作为一种助学方法,作为一种帮助读者,更好的掌握哲学的工具

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In one of Plato's lesser known dialogues he makes a statement--the following statement, which I think shows both the typical arrogance of the Greeks and also says something true.

在柏拉图的一个不怎么出名的对话录中,他作了一个声明,以下是这些声明,我认为它们既是希腊人典型的傲慢的体现,又说到了一些事实

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We'll be reading one of Plato's dialogues.

我们将会读到一个柏拉图的对话。

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Yeah, this is not a bad time for me to remind you that in one of Plato's dialogues, Socrates says the Greeks sit like frogs around a pond and that pond is the Aegean Sea.

下面引用一下,柏拉图记录的一段对话,苏格拉底说希腊地形,就像一群青蛙围着一个池塘,而那池塘就是爱琴海

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Now, as I say, many times when you read the dialogue, this or other dialogues by Plato, it seems as though he's fully cognizant of the objections that at least an attentive reader will raise about earlier stages of the argument.

很多时候当你阅读柏拉图的对话录,不管是这篇还是其他篇,柏拉图似乎很清楚至少有一个留心的读者,会对早期的一些观点,提出反驳意见

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Although this is a form of an argument that Plato does put forward in other dialogues as well, and so it strikes me so there's at least some reason to think this is an argument that he felt might well be right.

由于这个型相的论点,柏拉图在其他的对话录里也提到过,所以这令我觉得他可能,觉得这个论点可以成立

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