My stepfather was a former priest, one of the early black men ordained to the priesthood in the United States.

我的继父原先是一名牧师，是美国早期参与到,牧师事业中的黑人之一。

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A lot of what brings me to this table and this conversation is the combination of what I do now as an ordained minister in the Presbyterian church, and what I did previously as a wilderness instructor.

促使我来这个讲堂,参与大家讨论的原因,应该是由于我的工作,我现在是长老会的受命教长，曾经是野外活动的教练。

普林斯顿公开课 - 人性课程节选