And it feel like really this is just one of those like games the magicians play in the square where you are literally moving the cups around accomplishing nothing other than confusion - with the audience but-- which may actually be the case-- but, I argue that this is actually better.

看起来这就是一种,魔法师在广场中玩的游戏,在这个游戏中你只是逐个地移动杯子,除了让观众觉得困惑，其实什么事都没做,-但事实又是什么呢-,实际上我觉得不仅仅如此。

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I actually want to change that around, if I might, and play with that, because that's a really useful image for us: "takes the mask off literature and reminds us how we come to be sympathetic or Richard Wright how we come to think something." Think back to Richard Wright, who wants words to disappear, to be completely transparent and to leave you just with your response.

实际上，我想要改变一点，可能的话，玩弄一下，因为那对我们是很有用的画面：,把文学的面具卸下,我们是如何同情,或思考事物的，回想一下，他希望文字消失，而变成透明的，只剩下你们的回应。

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