This is just as he is coming into Denver: I said to myself, Wow, what'll Denver be like?
这是他刚到丹佛时:,我对自己说,噢,丹佛一定美极了?
I said, hook me up to that machine and I'll enjoy myself.
我说,把我连接到机器上,我会很享受。
And perhaps that is pastoral in a way, going back to what you said, that I do think of myself in many ways as doing pastoral counseling, particularly in the most difficult circumstances when there's been a crisis, a death, a serious accident.
也许某种意义上这像是种牧师与受众,回到你刚才说的,很多时候我觉得自己,就是作为一个牧师指导学生,尤其是在极其困难的情况下,比如出现了危机,伤亡,或者严重事故。
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