So, these are stories, some of them for voice and tape, and he'd do readings where he'd go and he'd put a tape recorder on the podium and he'd stand next to the tape recorder as his voice read the story from the tape recorder. And it was all to dramatize the problematic relationship between voice, story and person.

所以，这些故事，有些事是声音，他到哪，他会在台上放一部录音机,以便录音，当他读录音机里的故事时,他会站在录音机旁,这戏剧化了声音，故事，和人之间的错综复杂的关系。

耶鲁公开课 - 1945年后的美国小说课程节选

So, these are stories, some of them for voice and tape, and he'd do readings where he'd go and he'd put a tape recorder on the podium and he'd stand next to the tape recorder as his voice read the story from the tape recorder. And it was all to dramatize the problematic relationship between voice, story and person.

所以，这些故事，有些事是声音，他到哪，他会在台上放一部录音机,以便录音，当他读录音机里的故事时,他会站在录音机旁,这戏剧化了声音，故事，和人之间的错综复杂的关系。

耶鲁公开课 - 1945年后的美国小说课程节选