So, these are stories, some of them for voice and tape, and he'd do readings where he'd go and he'd put a tape recorder on the podium and he'd stand next to the tape recorder as his voice read the story from the tape recorder. And it was all to dramatize the problematic relationship between voice, story and person.

所以，这些故事，有些事是声音，他到哪，他会在台上放一部录音机,以便录音，当他读录音机里的故事时,他会站在录音机旁,这戏剧化了声音，故事，和人之间的错综复杂的关系。

耶鲁公开课 - 1945年后的美国小说课程节选

We'll be doing this in one week, and the disjunction between the two works, this disjunction at least with respect to their treatment of the Fall, should dramatize the nature, or just the enormity, of a lot of the conceptual problems and conflicts that Milton is tackling here.

我们在一周内都会来做这个工作，将这两部著作分离开来，这种分离至少要尊重他们对秋天不同的理解，应该将自然戏剧化，还是只是极恶,弥尔顿在这里应对的很多观念上的问题和冲突。

耶鲁公开课 - 弥尔顿课程节选