For this reason, Plato has often been cast as a kind of harbinger of the modern totalitarian state.
因此柏拉图,常被视为是现在,极权主义国家的先驱。
They emerge from this indifferent primal realm, This mixture of salt and sea waters, that is the source of all being and the source of ultimate power, But they age and they mature and they fight and they die.
他们都来自没有差别的原始王国,那盐和水的混合体就是一切生物的本源,也是极权的来源,但是他们会成长,成熟,战争,又死去。
The modern state in action, the absolute state in action is the army.
现代国家,或者说极权的运作,实际上就是军队的运作
This always raises the question that you will discuss in your section, whether or not Socrates' censorship of poetry and the arts is an indication of his totalitarian impulses.
这一向会唤出,你们在讨论时间会遇到的问题,苏格拉底对诗学与艺术的审查,是否点出,他的极权念头。
But one argument that can be made is that things things were so terrible and so out of control in the earlier period that the strengthening of the state is something that people saw as beneficial.
然而有这样一个观点,在动荡不定的战争年代,一个极权国家是有利于国家的发展的
So, these rulers have a coercive ability in creating, and I'll come back to this, large standing armies that will be arriving not immediately, they're not arriving by train or being helicoptered in at some distant command, but they will get there if there's trouble.
这些统治者们以铁腕构建极权,稍后我会谈到这一点,一只大规模的军队,在当时很难进行远程调度,因为他们没法坐火车或者搭直升机立刻赶到,但他们最终会到达事发处
Plato, who Popper accuses in a passionate, albeit not very well written book, accuses Plato of being the first to establish a kind of totalitarian dictatorship.
柏拉图在,Popper,充满激情,但写得不是很好的书中饱受指责,他指责柏拉图是第一位,建立类似极权独裁专政的人。
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