Mr Frantz, whose 87-year old firm, Frantz Electrolyse, is a key supplier to Peugeot and Renault, France’s two big car manufacturers, says banks have not lent to companies like his since 2008.

Frantz先生的公司，Frantz 电器已有87年了，是法国两大汽车制造商标致和雷诺的主要供应商，他说现在银行自从2008年开始不再贷款给他们了。

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